Wednesday, November 12, 2008

And if Wonder Woman would go back to being any good, that might be true

11: Will we see any spin offs with the character in the coming year?

DD: My feeling, in that she is one of our longest-running characters and most enduring characters, is that she should have more than one series going on. She should not just be relegated to one book. She has a level of prominence that we feel we should embrace, and more importantly, grow from. We look at things like Superman, Batman and Green Lantern – all of these characters have been able to support more than one series. There’s no reason why Wonder Woman shouldn’t do the same.


Yes, there really isn't. Except that:


1.) The Amazons Attack thing really is something that no one would ever pull on Batman or Superman.

2.) We've suffered through three writers in the post OYL period who seem to think it's cute or a good plot device to have Diana cry at the drop of a hat. You can, actually, be emotional without sobbing.

3.) It's difficult to believe that Diana is in the same awesome rank as Batman and Superman because her writers keep insisting on "testing" her all the time. You know how many books I pick up where Superman is tested? Where Batman is tested?

I am getting tired of reading stories where Diana has to *prove* her worth because the characters in the story don't think she's worthy - particularly with lots of sexist dialogue tossed in- Dialogue that she can never respond to, because oh, no, we can't have evil feminists in Wonder Woman! (Mostly because they would spend their entire time stuck between laughing at what a pathetic mess she's turned into and weeping at how the mighty have fallen.)

4.) Funny how Clark doesn't lose his powers when he changes clothes. Funny how Bruce doesn't lose his abilities when he's being Brucie.

5.) Nemesis was a bad idea, and shall always be a bad idea. He contributes absolutely nothing positive to the storyline, and his entire purpose is to give Diana a romantic interest that is unworthy of her.

6.) Clark and Bruce have awesome supporting casts that make their lives fuller. They have families and friends. Diana has that dick she's attracted to, and Etta...and some monkeys. She's not even allowed her sisters. Instead she gets a silly twit wearing Donna's costume who bizarrely chooses not to beat the shit out of Nemesis when he deserved it for breaking into Diana's apartment.

Her family, her heritage - all taken away from her. Not because of a tragedy, but because they were *wrong.*

In short, DiDio, I'd like to help you out, and view Diana on the same plane as Superman and Batman. Once upon a time, I did.

But the writers that you keep giving her? Seem determined to make me think of Wonder Woman on the same level as Jimmy Olsen in competence, power, and importance. Fix that, then get back to me about Diana's clout level in the DCU.

Because as it sits now? The only part of Diana's full and rich history that is being paid any attention to is the unfortunate and ridiculous decision to make her a vegetarian, while everything that actually matters is being tossed aside.

5 comments:

Ford MF said...

To be fair, Wonder Woman's been going through a rough, uneven patch for a long time now, and I don't think it's purely editorial at this point, I think that a lot of writers just don't know what to do with her (or female characters, period). Greg Rucka did some great stuff with her, and Simone has been solid, but hardly epochal.

But I think you put your finger on one problem: WW's supporting cast is hot garbage. They should at least put Wonder Girl in Wonder Woman (god knows, she's being criminally underused in Teen Titans).

But I think all that really needs to happen is for one writer for whom Wonder Woman works as a muse. Wonder Woman hasn't a had a Frank Miller like Batman, or an Alex Ross like Superman. Actually, I think the most compelling WW in the last twenty years has been the one in Kingdom Come.

philippos42 said...

Wondie is supposedly part of the Trinity, but in execution, this often turns into Wondie being Clark & Bruce's pet female, who they help out. Somehow she's in their club, but is as junior to them as the Ray or somebody--instead of being an independent powerhouse in her own right.

And this is in Heinberg's run on her book.

Kevin Huxford said...

"4.) Funny how Clark doesn't lose his powers when he changes clothes. Funny how Bruce doesn't lose his abilities when he's being Brucie."

Funny how Captain Marvel...oh, wait. ;)

It doesn't comment on the strength of the character or the concept and certainly isn't some sort of sexism on display, if that is what was being implied.

philippos42 said...

The issue I have with a depowered Diana Prince changing into a powered Wondy is that it is precisely a Captain Marvel riff, introduced in a TV adaptation that was mimicking the TV version of Captain Marvel. It's not part of the original Marston & Peter premise, & doesn't really belong in Wonder Woman.

I like Captain Marvel, Prime, Cutie Honey, Dial "H" for Hero, etc. But that schtick isn't proper Wondy, somehow.

James Ashelford said...

Point six strikes me as a particularly crucial on in the different role Diana plays to Clark and Bruce.

She needs students. Bruce has his army of child soldiers, Superman has just about every hero he ever meets but Diana has always been meant to be a teacher, preaching her people's word across the world.

So bring back her sisters, bring back her teaching and bring in new students because she's missing her point and that leads to aimlessness.

And Wonder Woman, of all things, should not be aimless.